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| posted by: Mando |  Posted - 01/12/2013 at 12:53:30 AM |
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Hi Guys,
I just have a question what you think is the correct way to handle such a prediciment.
Ill set the situation.
Player A makes a foul shot (not hitting any balls) and in turn hard snookers player B.
What is the correct way to follow up on such a foul?
* Player B is forced to attempt to hit his own ball in most likely foul giving Player A 2 shots?
*Player B is allout to take the white ball to the D?
*or??
If anyone could clarify how this should be handled that would be great?
This just happened to me in a game recently and it brought up a little disagreement.
Thanks!
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| reply #1 by: Mitch Alsup | Posted - 01/12/2013 at 3:59:52 PM |
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Player B gets Ball in Hand anywhere on the table after player A's foul (any kind of foul!)
The only way player A can completely snooker player B with a foul is to completely surround player B's last ball so that player B has to perform a jump shot to make legal contact first. |
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| reply #2 by: Zeke | Posted - 01/13/2013 at 11:09:17 AM |
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Which of the six sets of 8-ball rules do either of you quote as the basis of the question - and the answer?
I haven't played 8-ball in years, nor do I plan on playing anytime soon, but a missed shot (hitting no balls) is still a missed shot (assuming a cushion "touch" occurred by the CB) - or is it? |
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| reply #3 by: Mitch Alsup | Posted - 01/13/2013 at 3:46:16 PM |
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In order for it NOT to be a missed shot:
A) a ball of the players group must be contacted with the white ball
B) before the white ball touches a ball of the other playes group, or the 8-ball
C) after making contact of A, at least one (non-white) ball has to touch a rail or drop into a pocket. |
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| reply #4 by: 2ballrun | Posted - 01/14/2013 at 04:35:10 AM |
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It seems that this question comes up all the time here? Player "A" must contact his ball first then any ball must touch a rail. If a rail is hit with the cue ball first, the cue ball must still contact one of player "A's" balls and ANY ball must then go to a rail in order for it to be a good hit. If this does not happen in that order, it is a foul. Player "B" would get ball in hand.
If you hit a cushion then your ball, and something does not hit the rail after that happens, it is a foul. Opponent gets ball in hand. |
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| reply #5 by: Zeke | Posted - 01/14/2013 at 09:23:50 AM |
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Again I ask: Which of the six totally different sets of 8-ball rules - are you citing? |
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| reply #6 by: Mando | Posted - 01/16/2013 at 02:28:55 AM |
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Hi Guys, I appreciate your input, When you guys say "ball in hand" are you refferring to that i can take the white ball off the table and place it in the "d" or behind the line?'' |
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| reply #7 by: 2ballrun | Posted - 01/16/2013 at 04:30:40 AM |
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Ball in hand means you can place it anywhere on the table.
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| reply #8 by: 2ballrun | Posted - 01/16/2013 at 04:40:08 AM |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Zeke
Again I ask: Which of the six totally different sets of 8-ball rules - are you citing?
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I can't think of any where this would not be the case. In fact I can't even think of any game, 14.1, 9 ball, 10 ball, 1 pocket, where a good hit is any different? The penalty might be different, but it is still a foul.
Bar rules does not count! Can you name one where it is different?
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| reply #9 by: Mitch Alsup | Posted - 01/17/2013 at 12:03:17 AM |
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| quote: | Originally posted by 2ballrun
Ball in hand means you can place it anywhere on the table.
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The only restriction is that you may not commit a foul while placing the CB anywhere on the table. A fou would include moving another ball, touching another ball, or otherwise altering the table position. |
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| reply #10 by: maria | Posted - 03/01/2013 at 03:26:07 AM |
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Good discussion..thanks i also got solution of my question.. |
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| reply #11 by: Tasha_silvester | Posted - 03/04/2013 at 10:51:05 AM |
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Its simple as far as I understand the question - Player B can have the ball anywhere in the D to make the shot |
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| reply #12 by: allanpsand | Posted - 04/07/2013 at 09:27:40 AM |
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If you are playing the ancient bar rules, then expectation is to attempt any kind of stupid attempt to make a good hit. You're stuck with the problem.
Therefore, the solution is to put on an act that results in a "miscue" that only moves the CB a very short distance (an inch works).
Raise your face to the heavens and loudly complain that the pool gods hate you. Leave your opponent to stupidly attempt a 3-rail kick to pocket a ball.
You end up with a good leave and an easy opportunity to run-out to the win - and proper social behavior has been observed.
Otherwise, the rule is - no legal hit, incoming player can pick up the cue ball and place it anywhere on the table for his shot.
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