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posted by: guest10
Posted - 08/17/2007 at 01:42:36 AM
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I'm looking for any information I can find on a variety of pool table made by Fischer in the late 60s. I have an 8' one (Duchess model) that was bought in 1969. It has what they called a steel reinforced honeycomb playfield, which is apparently a honeycomb structure sandwiched between steel plate and high density fiberboard. The entire playfield reacts to a magnet, both top and bottom. It takes 4 men to move it without straining. There's not a bit of warp or other problem with it except for the felt, even after almost 40 years of abuse by 4 kids, and everything from birthday parties to keggers, to upending it and moving it on the back of a pickup.

I'm having trouble finding anyone that knows how to recover it. I've come up pretty empty "googling" for information on this kind of table. Photos at -removed-album-deleted- Apparently nobody else used this kind of playfield structure, but its lasted so well, I'm surprised nobody makes them this way anymore.
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reply #1 by: garyrobar
Posted - 08/17/2007 at 10:48:29 AM
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Hello, yes it is definitely an interesting design. The Fischer line of pool tables is pretty much managed/owned by the C. L. Bailey Co. I would be inclined to shoot them a quick email to see if they have any more information.

In fact, Charles Bailey was a lawyer before the C. L. Bailey Co was formed, and Mr. Fischer was one of his clients...

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“One of my clients was Ewald Fischer, a businessman that owned Fischer Manufacturing, a pool table manufacturer. When Mr. Fischer started experiencing health problems, my legal services began to include day-to-day management responsibilities. In 1968, Mr. Fischer decided to sell the company to Spaulding Sporting Goods, and I handled the sale. Spaulding asked me to stay and run the company. Later we became the largest pool table manufacturer in the world.”


Anyway, probably too much information, but nonetheless, I'd contact them to see if there is any more information available.

Brunswick also used the "honeycomb" design in some of their pool tables from the same period as well. I saw one for sale where this type of construction was noted in the advertisement. The table was from the late 1950's or early 1960s.

Do let us know what you find.
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Posted - 08/17/2007 at 4:31:44 PM
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Thanks for the response. I had already contacted C.L. Bailey and they were no help at all. They said "... when the company sold out they destroyed all company records. As for the name we are a name coincidence only." I guess that means there was no business continuity between then and now, and they simply began using the Fischer name again as an entirely new company.
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reply #3 by: garyrobar
Posted - 08/17/2007 at 6:13:21 PM
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Yeah, there is no documentation or history whatsoever on the C. L. site, which leads to beleive they bought the brand and s****ped everything else.

I'd probably go to eBay, do a few related searches, then subscribe to the rss feed for each of the searches. That way, you can see when any go on the market, and contact the seller for details.

Here is some more information on the FIRST sale of Fischer Mfg Co to Spaulding:

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...Fischer Manufacturing Company ... made pool tables in Tipton MO ... founded in 1949 and remained there until it was sold to Spalding in 1968. (tiptonmo.com/information/8ball.htm)


Good luck in your search for more information, and definitely keep us posted with your findings.
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Posted - 06/27/2008 at 06:34:14 AM
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I found this website which gives a company name which might help you. tiptonmo.com/history/manufacturersGo to Top of Page
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reply #5 by: garyrobar
Posted - 06/27/2008 at 10:24:42 AM
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I found this website which gives a company name which might help you. tiptonmo.com/history/manufacturers


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Fischer Manufacturing Company was started in Tipton in 1949 by Ewald L. Fischer. He built his first crude table in his basement with the help of two assistants, an electric drill, a bench saw and other hand tools. As the years passed the table design improved and the company kept growing.

Seeing his success, other towns offered Fischer a free plant if he would move to their communities. But Ewald Fischer said no. "I was born here," he said, "I'm a Tipton boy and all my friends are here." Companies attempt­ing to buy his business never gave up. It was not until December 1968 that Fischer Manufacturing, the country's largest builder of pool tables at that time, was sold to Spalding Company, a division of Questor, the present owners.

The Tipton plant employs approximately 200 people.
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reply #6 by: Nutpea
Posted - 10/18/2008 at 08:02:01 AM
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I too have a Fischer pool table. I have been trying to find any information on the pool table for about 20 years. The table was given to me by my old pool partner. The last time I needed to move it (about 6 years ago) from one house to another, I had A-1 Billiards here in Las Vegas come out to see if they could move it. When they started dismantling it, it was determined that the slate was almost completely cracked across. They would not move it until I got a new piece of slate. It took them about 2 months before they finally found a slate for it. It cost me $575 for the new slate, for them to deliver the slate to my new house, to put the felt on it, and to level the table for me. I asked them if they knew what the table was worth, and they told me that they were not sure but that I could probably get anywhere from $1,500 to $2,500. To me it should be worth a lot more given the age of the table, and the fact that the Fischer Mfg. Co. who built these great pool tables no longer exists. The table is absolutely perfect and I don't think I will ever get rid of it. However, the reason I was trying to find information on it was to see what it was worth. The table has a metal plate on it that says "Fischer Mfg. Co., Inc. - Tipton, Missouri - Serial No. A02502." Any new information you happen to come across would be greatly appreciated.Go to Top of Page
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reply #7 by: garyrobar
Posted - 10/18/2008 at 08:04:38 AM
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Hi Nutpea, do you think you could post a picture of your Fischer pool table?Go to Top of Page
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Posted - 03/29/2009 at 11:26:22 AM
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thought someone may find this of interest http://columbiamo.craigslist.org/fuo/1097646430.html

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Posted - 03/29/2009 at 11:35:09 AM
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this is from th cl ad above

This is a Ficher brand, full size pool table with balls, cues, cue rack, and everything you need to play. It is a one piece GENUINE 1" MARBLE TOP (a faster table than Slate), with perfect felt on it. I hate to part with it, but the wife wants it out of the living room. Also, I can arrange delivery.

(660) 221-2380

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reply #10 by: eimiral
Posted - 05/19/2009 at 08:02:09 AM
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Forum Lurker,

I am having trouble finding information about my Fischer table as well. The metal plate on the side of the table says "Fischer MFG. CO. INC Tipton, Missouri Serial NO. A08098." There's another metal plate close in proximity which says "Duchess" "Fischer MFG. CO. INC. Tipton, MO. 65081" "Made in USA." I'm really fascinated by the story of the company and it's made me wonder about the value of the table. If anyone has any kind of information that would be helpful I'd really appreciate it. I'm extremely excited to learn more about the history and value of my table. Please feel free to reach out. Thanks!

Have a great day!
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reply #11 by: Nutpea
Posted - 05/19/2009 at 11:56:31 AM
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Please read my reply #6 to this thread. I too have the same kind of table. I have been asked to take pictures of it to post but I just haven't gotten around to it. If you have any pictures, please post. The most information I have found about my table has been on this forum.Go to Top of Page
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reply #12 by: Mitch Alsup
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There are table mechanics that glue the cloth to the underside of the bedding (instead of staples or brads). But, back in the era of that table, I suspect that the bed does have a wooden liner that can be used to hold staples/brads. You might have to remove a rail in order to obseve its presence or absence.Go to Top of Page
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reply #13 by: eimiral
Posted - 05/19/2009 at 12:53:21 PM
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Hey!

Thanks for the quick responses! I can post pictures this evening. The only other thing I've found out was Fischer was sold to Spalding Company, a division of Questor in 1968(which we all already knew) and then in 1976 Questor sold Fischer Mfg to Ebonite Billiard Co. I got that info from this link, http://www.worldslargestthings.com/missouri/8ball.htm I hit a dead end after that. I can't find much about the Ebonite Billiard Company at all. I'm not even sure if trying to research that company will be helpful or not. Hopefully the pictures I post later can help us get somewhere.

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