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posted by: jraypfs
Posted - 06/14/2007 at 07:42:55 AM
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My wife and I are looking for a table for our new basement and I notice that the new to used prices for Brunswick, et al drop faster than a Buick leaving the showroom. I could buy a name brand new for $3k up while a used brand costs $600 - $2,000 (posted prices on Craigs List).

We have a showroom nearby named Billiardex that sells only Spencer Marston brand and when we looked at the tables, the style suited my wife, the construction was all hardwood (no fake wood) and they really looked good. When I inquired why they were so much less expensive than the tables down the street (Brunswick, et al) the fellow said "China" and all became clear. I had just looked at a 1993 Brunswick at a womans home that had minor dings, but otherwise looked good and it was priced at $1,800; the table my wife and I liked was $1,900.

So my question is this: has anyone heard anything negative about the play in the Spencer Marston pool tables that would keep me from buying? (By the way, I am the novice of novices, only playing on in-laws pool tables as a young man and never attempting serious play at all).[?][8D]
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reply #1 by: garyrobar
Posted - 06/14/2007 at 11:24:58 AM
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Spencer Marston Pool Tables are likely small and local. What I've learned about this is that they usually source their billiard tables from China and brand them with their own name.

There are differences in slate and how foundations are built. For example, the table manufacturers like Olhausen use Italian slate while the smaller Chinese tables use Chinese or Brazilian slate, which is generally considered inferior to Italian. (How true this is, I don't know. I mean it is like Sony for consumer electronics right? At one time, they were truly superior to other brands and could command a higher price, but now, they are getting killed in the marketplace by low-priced competitors with quality products.) They do say that for hundreds of years, the Italian slate has been the best.

There has also been discussion about how poor the Spencer Marston Pool Table warranty is in comparison with other manufacturers. They have lots of "conditions" and generally make the consumer jump through many hoops to get satisfaction from their warranty.

On the other hand, I did read of some good opinions on the tables. One table mechanic who used to work for Billiardex vouched for the quality of the Spencer Marston Pool Tables. He felt that many players are snobbish and just go for the name without having played on the better imports. He said that he would rank Spencer Marston tables highly among some of the other import companies out there.

He also noted that the frequency of problems is very low in the overall scheme of things compared to total number of pool tables purchased, and thus, no warranty is worth thousands of extra dollars.
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reply #2 by: garyrobar
Posted - 06/14/2007 at 11:29:04 AM
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I'd say, after the reviews i've read, that for your budget, and your skill lever thus far (you said you were novice of novice) If it was me, i'd consider one of these tables.Go to Top of Page
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reply #3 by: jraypfs
Posted - 06/14/2007 at 3:37:25 PM
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Thanks so much for the heads up. I'll keep everyone posted on the success/failure of this purchase.
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reply #4 by: bayoublaster
Posted - 01/10/2008 at 11:54:33 AM
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So can Ya give us an update on the Spencer Marston table? Looking at purchasing one myself and was looking for some human input from personal experience. Thanks!Go to Top of Page
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reply #5 by: jraypfs
Posted - 01/10/2008 at 1:22:46 PM
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So can Ya give us an update on the Spencer Marston table? Looking at purchasing one myself and was looking for some human input from personal experience. Thanks!


I wound up buying a used table from Craig's list. Spent 1/2 as much as I would have otherwise.

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Posted - 01/29/2008 at 11:06:32 PM
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I'm not by any means promoting so called Chinese tables. Now that I got that out of the way, let me say this. I did my share of research and spoke with numerous table makers, installers and here's what I have found out about slate. Italian slate has been used for over a hundred years in the making of tables but is by no means "superior" to Brazilian slate. If it weren't for all the hype about Italian slate, table makers would have swapped to Brazilian slate years ago as it's a scientific fact that Brazilian slate is denser per inch than Italian slate and doesn't have the flexibility that Italian slate has, so storage amd shipping can be easier. Now on the other hand, since Brazilian slate is denser and harder, it's also harder to to get it down to tolerances. But newer techniques and technology are and have overcome this. I still find it hard to believe that it will be accepted as superior to Italian slate any time soon as no one is promoting it as such but when I purchase my next table, the type of slate definitely won't be the deciding factor, nor will the manufacturer. But rest assured that the top names will eventually be using it on their tables in the future as they continue to try to keep costs down while maintaining quality. The funny part is going to be seeing these same top manufacturers who are tooting their horn about how thier slate (Italian slate) is so much more superior than Brazilian swap over to Brazilian slate. Then you'll see why they aren't telling anyone that the Brazilian slate is actually denser because that's going to be their exact marketing ploy to get everyone to accept the fact that they are swapping over to it. Talk about hypocritical. But that's just business. When I do purchase my next table It'll be based on craftsmanship, warranty and the most important thing of all.....customer service after the sale. I'll gladly pay good hard eraned money for all of those.Go to Top of Page
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Posted - 01/12/2009 at 4:16:15 PM
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My ex bought a spencer marten pool table about 1.5 years ago, moved out just after and never used it. I don't play. Should I have it dismantled and stored for (until my credit is good enough to have a game room again)? Now I have to sell it because I have to move and he doesn't want it and so I don't know how other than Craigs list. If anyone has any advice, I would very much appreciate it. Don't know how much he paid, but it seems to be the "manhattan" by Spencer Martin and doesn't really have any nicks or dings on the table or the bumpers. Do you measure the bumper to bumper or the outside edge of the whole table? Thanks very much for any advice, Eva.
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Posted - 01/28/2009 at 09:05:55 AM
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